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Responding to personal ads: don't lead with your most extreme trait

I've been thinking about cream pie guy, and in particular, Zachary's question as to whether I would let this guy (if he came across as not dangerous) hit me in the face with a pie?

First, let me talk about the general idea of responding to someone's personal ad. The idea, of course, is that they write an ad that appeals to you on some level, and you then respond, hoping to appeal back. You gradually expose (ahem) more of each other until you're ready to hop into bed or have a relationship or whatever it is you both are looking for. At some point in this process, you may want to share a detail about yourself -- perhaps an insecurity, perhaps a kink, perhaps a health issue -- that you know is not the norm.

I recommend that you not open with your most bizarre or extreme characteristic or interest. (I make an exception here for STD disclosure. You should always be up front about that.) But, if you are into a variety of kinky things, and you see an ad from a woman who expresses an interest in kink, you should not necessarily assume that her kink is the same as your kink, or that your most extreme kink will appeal to her. I suggest that you start with what I call mainstream kink: bondage (everybody likes bondage!) or sensation play (feathers and ice cubes) and maybe something more unusual, unless she has specified something already that moves things along a little faster. Especially if this is your first email to a woman, remember that she's likely to be looking for more than just a wild and crazy guy, who might want to cream (pie) in her face.

Now, two notes here: it may well be that cream pie guy was starting with one of his more moderate interests. In that case, he's given me an important piece of information. Additionally, if he's only interested in hooking up with a woman who would let him do this, then he might as well open with it, because if it's a deal breaker, why waste time? On the other hand, of course (and this gets to Zachary's question), I'm more likely to do something strange for a partner who I know and in whom I'm invested than for someone I don't yet know.

In fact, having a partner with a strong interest in something that has never interested me is one of the most surefire ways of getting me to find that thing hot. And, of course, I'm a GGG girl, so unless it actively turns me off, if it's important to my lover, I'm probably going to be willing to try it twice.

As to this specific activity, I'm pretty sure that if I had a partner who really, really wanted to do this, I'd be willing, but I have two small confessions: a) I hate having stuff on my face, especially sticky stuff, so this one wouldn't be on the top of my things to try, especially because b) I've actually had a cream pie-in-the-face experience, so it's not like I'd even get the purity point for it.

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Erm. What's a GGG girl?

GGG = good, giving and game. It's a Dan Savage-ism for a partner who's, well, willing to try and/or do things that get their partner hot even if those things aren't particularly hot to them.

I need to find one of these GGG women. Where do they hide? :-)

I don't see why someone should OPEN with an STD (the exception you made to the "extreme characteristic" rule). You should certainly be upfront but I think one can be perfectly honest and still not announce it in the first email. Some, like herpes or HPV, might be things that someone, given enough motivation, might be willing to risk. Others, even AIDS, can be "worked around" by doing things other than genital penetration. I think it is certainly reasonable for someone to put their best face forward, engage their target partner, establish some mutual interest, and then say "So there's something we should talk about before we move on further..." That's certainly how I'd approach it.

Sorry I'm a little late to this thread. (My internet connection was down for a week, so I'm only just now seeing this post.) ClueChick, would you mind elaborating on something you mentioned above -- the pie-in-the-face experience you've already had? That is, in what context did this happen, and what was your reaction?

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