"Nice guys finish last," the saying goes, and there seem to be lots of guys who finish last who have decided that this must mean that they're nice guys. They get the short end of the stick or the wrong side of the coin toss one time too often, more than they deserve (or so they think) and this is proof that the world is against them, even though they really are just so nice, no, really, they are.
I call these guys assholes in nice guy clothing, and they're one of my least favorite types. These are the "nice guys" who use their status as a "nice guy" to try to get their way. Is that nice? I don't think so. They think that it doesn't count as being pushy if they ask nicely, even if they're asking for the 10th time, and even if they're asking after they've been requested to stop. Nice? No. These may be the guys who creep me out the most of all of the yucky jerky types out there, because they aren't always as obvious as the guy who comes out and announces with pride that he's an asshole. (Not to mention that I've found that plenty of the guys who do that turn out to be standouts in the decency department, using the "asshole" title as a way to protect their secret sensitive sides.)
Assholes in nice guy clothing are the sorts who will say they respect women and then turn around and expect women to sleep with them merely on the basis of their being "nice". They reject the idea that women might actually have tastes and preferences and tag as "frigid" or "bitchy" any woman who has the nerve to turn them down. It's not that she's reasonably exercising her particular tastes but that she's a bitch who can't see how good he is because she only wants bad boys.
Well, I'll tell you, I'll take a bad boy who listens to me when I tell him what I want from him than a "nice" guy who ignores what I say:
AiNGC: I still pray for one more chance
AiNGC: well any chance I can get.
AiNGC: one more crack, it's a new year, after all
AiNGC: *grin*
ClueChick: are you familiar with the phrase, "No means no."?
AiNGC: yes
ClueChick: Do you know what I assume about men who pressure me to do
something after I have declined?
AiNGC: pressure?
AiNGC: I just asked nicely
ClueChick: see, asking nicely, after having been told clearly not to,
is pressure
ClueChick: it's just "nice guy" pressure. it's like an asshole in nice
guy clothing
AiNGC: LOL
AiNGC: you have me pegged well
AiNGC: but it's more persistence than anything else
ClueChick: from where I'm sitting, it means you don't take what I say
seriously
ClueChick: this is a pretty common problem among men
ClueChick: they think women don't really mean it when they say
something the guy doesn't want to hear
ClueChick: but when I say no, I mean it, and I clearly remember
explaining this to you in a past conversation
AiNGC: ok
AiNGC: won't ask again
AiNGC: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
ClueChick: and I believe that at that time, i said I would be happy to
talk to you in the future, but I don't like having to say no, and please
don't make me do it again
AiNGC: you did that too
AiNGC: was hoping you forgot though
ClueChick: ah, and if I had forgotten it, would that make it okay for
you to ignore my request?
AiNGC: well ok to you
AiNGC: since nobody would have been harmed
ClueChick: which shows me how much you respect me and my requests
ClueChick: thus: asshole in nice guy clothing
AiNGC: ok no more asking
AiNGC: I know your memory is good
(I love that he ends this conversation not with, "Sorry to be an asshole," or "You're right, I didn't respect your request," but, rather, "Your memory is good," which is to say, obviously, that he doesn't think his asking was wrong, just his underestimating my memory. Seriously, this is one of my least favorite types of people, EVER.)